Comments on: AutoCAD for Mac http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm Random thoughts about AutoCAD, ObjectARX, and the meaning of life. Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:57:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: AutoCAD ritorna sui sistemi Mac | CadGis.it http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1848 AutoCAD ritorna sui sistemi Mac | CadGis.it Thu, 19 May 2011 15:25:54 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-1848 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: AutoCAD per Mac: il ricongiungimento sembra vicino | Giuseppe La Bua.it http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-609 AutoCAD per Mac: il ricongiungimento sembra vicino | Giuseppe La Bua.it Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:22:51 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-609 [...] recentemente Owen Wengerd di Manusoft ha individuato dei chiari riferimenti ad una versione di AutoCAD per Mac [...] [...] recentemente Owen Wengerd di Manusoft ha individuato dei chiari riferimenti ad una versione di AutoCAD per Mac [...]

]]> By: osu arch http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-456 osu arch Thu, 13 May 2010 06:53:04 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-456 no one is asking for anyone to jump ship. pc's are here for good, and those who prefer shouldn't switch. there is an often dismissed group of users that are able to get every other piece of software on the mac EXEpt Autodesk. don't make the mistake of underestimating how many designers [or otherwise] use macs. we want autocad, revit and max [not maya] too. it's easy to say 12% of computers are macs ... "what about the rest of us 88% windows users aren't we more important?" this isn't a measuring contest, but if it were wouldn't the more accurate comparison be __% Dell __% HP __% Acer __% Apple. just because apple makes a custom OS tailored to work flawlessly on their hardware [and it does] doesn't mean dell and hp and acer and ... should get to be lumped together in comparison. the assumption that macs are more expensive is arrogant and ignorant. your computer's not better because it was cheaper. over the last year building SIMILAR HARDWARE CONFIGS at hp, dell and apple has yielded pricing within 100$ of each other. On 2 occasions apple was CHEAPER by over 400$ [early 2009 imacs]. the reality is people will move on. autodesk will do whatever they please, because they are in complete control of anyone choosing to use their products [and man there are a lot of us]. if they choose to ignore the mac family now in this time of profound growth, their arrogance may cost them the crown they have gotten so used to wearing. alternatives will be embraced... no one is asking for anyone to jump ship. pc’s are here for good, and those who prefer shouldn’t switch. there is an often dismissed group of users that are able to get every other piece of software on the mac EXEpt Autodesk. don’t make the mistake of underestimating how many designers [or otherwise] use macs. we want autocad, revit and max [not maya] too.

it’s easy to say 12% of computers are macs … “what about the rest of us 88% windows users aren’t we more important?” this isn’t a measuring contest, but if it were wouldn’t the more accurate comparison be __% Dell __% HP __% Acer __% Apple. just because apple makes a custom OS tailored to work flawlessly on their hardware [and it does] doesn’t mean dell and hp and acer and … should get to be lumped together in comparison.

the assumption that macs are more expensive is arrogant and ignorant. your computer’s not better because it was cheaper. over the last year building SIMILAR HARDWARE CONFIGS at hp, dell and apple has yielded pricing within 100$ of each other. On 2 occasions apple was CHEAPER by over 400$ [early 2009 imacs].

the reality is people will move on. autodesk will do whatever they please, because they are in complete control of anyone choosing to use their products [and man there are a lot of us]. if they choose to ignore the mac family now in this time of profound growth, their arrogance may cost them the crown they have gotten so used to wearing. alternatives will be embraced…

]]> By: charles http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-364 charles Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:37:54 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-364 More important than AutoCAD for the Mac, would be Revit for the Mac. Even smaller firms are transitioning to Revit, albeit slowly. If you have a Mac office, you probably run ArchiCAD or Vectorworks. Why buy a piece of software AutoCAD) that is more expensive or even double the costof the one you have, pay to train on it and then find that in a couple of years, it is no longer the industry standard, having been supplanted by Revit. More important than AutoCAD for the Mac, would be Revit for the Mac. Even smaller firms are transitioning to Revit, albeit slowly. If you have a Mac office, you probably run ArchiCAD or Vectorworks. Why buy a piece of software AutoCAD) that is more expensive or even double the costof the one you have, pay to train on it and then find that in a couple of years, it is no longer the industry standard, having been supplanted by Revit.

]]> By: Rodney Schuler http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-309 Rodney Schuler Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:58:06 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-309 My first job out of college was writing ads/ObjectARX applications. The company I worked for supported R12 & R13 on Win9x, WinNT, HPUX and Solaris. Yes, AutoCAD R13 ran on UNIX systems. Under the hood Max OSX is very much a UNIX system. If they do a Mac port it will be a return to AutoCAD's roots. Autodesk as adopted some windows specific tech since then (VBA, COM, .NET). VBA is not available on Mac, but AutoDesk is phasing that out anyway. .Net is already on the Mac (http://www.mono-project.com/Mono:OSX). How COM is done will be interesting. I have not yet had time to really read through the 2011 headers. Owen, does the Mac specific stuff appear around the COM based tech? (tool palettes, context menus, etc.) My first job out of college was writing ads/ObjectARX applications. The company I worked for supported R12 & R13 on Win9x, WinNT, HPUX and Solaris. Yes, AutoCAD R13 ran on UNIX systems. Under the hood Max OSX is very much a UNIX system. If they do a Mac port it will be a return to AutoCAD’s roots.

Autodesk as adopted some windows specific tech since then (VBA, COM, .NET). VBA is not available on Mac, but AutoDesk is phasing that out anyway. .Net is already on the Mac (http://www.mono-project.com/Mono:OSX). How COM is done will be interesting. I have not yet had time to really read through the 2011 headers. Owen, does the Mac specific stuff appear around the COM based tech? (tool palettes, context menus, etc.)

]]> By: AutoCAD per Mac, primi indizi di porting - TheAppleLounge http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94 AutoCAD per Mac, primi indizi di porting - TheAppleLounge Sat, 17 Apr 2010 04:01:17 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-94 [...] Wengerd di Manusoft ha scoperto dei riferimenti abbastanza espliciti ad una versione per Mac del software all’interno del SDK 2011 di [...] [...] Wengerd di Manusoft ha scoperto dei riferimenti abbastanza espliciti ad una versione per Mac del software all’interno del SDK 2011 di [...]

]]> By: rg http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-91 rg Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:20:08 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-91 even if acad 2012 is also released on the mac...acad users are windows users and hate mac don't they? why you you move to mac, change acad (which will be a different UI no matter what adsk would aim for) and buy more expensive hardware? you wouldn't even if acad 2012 is also released on the mac…acad users are windows users and hate mac don’t they? why you you move to mac, change acad (which will be a different UI no matter what adsk would aim for) and buy more expensive hardware?

you wouldn’t

]]> By: Rumores de AutoCAD para Mac « Claudia Campos Lima http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-86 Rumores de AutoCAD para Mac « Claudia Campos Lima Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:00:44 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-86 [...] http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/AutoCAD-for-mac.htm [...] [...] http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/AutoCAD-for-mac.htm [...]

]]> By: Aquecem-se os rumores sobre um AutoCAD para Mac | MacMagazine http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85 Aquecem-se os rumores sobre um AutoCAD para Mac | MacMagazine Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:55:03 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-85 [...] do questionário foi bastante positivo. Owen Wengerd, que tem um blog especializado no assunto, divulgou há alguns dias referências de um AutoCAD para Mac encontradas no SDK do ObjectARX 2011, o ambiente de [...] [...] do questionário foi bastante positivo. Owen Wengerd, que tem um blog especializado no assunto, divulgou há alguns dias referências de um AutoCAD para Mac encontradas no SDK do ObjectARX 2011, o ambiente de [...]

]]> By: Owen Wengerd http://otb.manusoft.com/2010/04/autocad-for-mac.htm/comment-page-1#comment-83 Owen Wengerd Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:08:25 +0000 http://otb.manusoft.com/?p=123#comment-83 Jose, I am also curious about future support for VSTA. I expect that the first OS X versions of AutoCAD will be bare bones, with none of the trappings that can't be easily ported. Ironically, the old workhorse AutoLISP should port fairly easily to both OS X and Linux (which I expect is also in the works). Jose, I am also curious about future support for VSTA. I expect that the first OS X versions of AutoCAD will be bare bones, with none of the trappings that can’t be easily ported. Ironically, the old workhorse AutoLISP should port fairly easily to both OS X and Linux (which I expect is also in the works).

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